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Herndon Students Protest Punishment for Pranks Via Twitter

Seniors barred from graduation ceremonies after allegedly spray painting the outside of the school and pouring baby oil on the floors on June 6.

A group of seniors have been told they won’t be able to walk at their graduation because of pranks they played at the school on June 6 and students have started a twitter-based protest.

A letter sent to parents from the school says, “Throughout the day we experienced a number of unfortunate events that caused a major disruption to our school day.”

Principal William Bates told parents that he was notified by the building engineer at about 5 a.m. that the exterior of the building had been vandalized with paint. The students also poured baby oil on the floors in the main hallway, in the gym lobby and on two staircases.

The letter says students also pulled a fire alarm causing the entire school to evacuate on a day that students were scheduled to take SOLs and final exams. One person with knowledge of the incidents told Patch the fire alarm was not pulled by a senior.

“Today’s incidents caused a major safety concern for every student and adult in the building,” Bates’ letter says. “Any student who is caught engaging in these types of disruptive behaviors will face a suspension from the school and possible recommendation for expulsion.”

“Any student who disengages a fire alarm will be recommended for expulsion and charged by the police. Seniors caught engaging in these types of disruptive behaviors will not be permitted to participate in any of the scheduled graduation activities.”

NBC Channel 4 reports that the prank was pulled by Herndon senior Ashkan Naderi and five of his friends, but that they had nothing to do with the fire alarm being pulled. They have been suspended. Three of them, including Naderi have been banned from walking across the stage at Thursday's graduation.

The group of boys and their classmates are trying to protest via Twitter with the hash tags #lettheboyswalk and #lettheboyswalk2012. Students also wore T-shirts to school with the hashtagged phrase on them, but some students said on Twitter the administration made them take the shirts off.

Naderi told NBC 4 that they have attorneys that are looking into the controversy for them. (Watch Naderi's statement on video from NBC4 here.)

Note: This story was updated at 2:18 p.m. to clarify that the fire alarm was not pulled by a senior student, according to one source.

Update - June 11, 4:15 p.m.: The Fairfax Times is reporting that Naderi and others involved take responsibility for the baby oil only, and the fire alarm and spray paint were separate incidents.


A sample of the messages on Twitter:

LaurOdactyl: Would it honestly be funny if a pregnant woman slipped down the stairs and lost her baby? No. Moronic teen boys. Don't #lettheboyswalk

Then LaurOdactyl posted: The GUYS INVOLVED knew a prank like that wouldn't be tolerated, STILL did it, & are trying to sue for being punished. Don't #lettheboyswalk

• marieantwanett: #LetTheBoysWalk , i would walk and every senior shake bates hand with baby oil !!

• JayKayEveryday: If the boys don't get to walk after all of this I along with the rest of the school will be extremely pissed. #LetTheBoysWalk2012

• Shaybaybayy: @shooomaker and @68AndI0U1 deserve to walk. You wait practically your whole life for graduation. #LetTheBoysWalk2012

shooomaker: I just want to GRADUATE. Like I'm not trying to escape punishment, but make it anything other than not walking...that's alllll I want

• 68AndI0U1: We need everyone to keep tweeting #LetTheBoysWalk Please & Thank You!

• DoogieDuges19: People who don't think @shooomaker and @68AndI0U1 should walk are either underclassmen or don't know either of these boys well enough.

Chimpansteen19: #lettheboyswalk2012 is so pointless. vandalizing your school is such a terrible prank, take responsibility for your actions.

• sydbaby2012: Seniors: can we do a sit-in or something?! Protest? Anything.#LetTheBoysWalk2012

• pezetter: Theses kids aren't villains... #LetTheBoysWalk

• shesagabster: It's not just about receiving a diploma, it's about walking with the people you've been with for the past 4 years. #LetTheBoysWalk2012

• danyavocado21: I'm class of 2011 but i respect this prank. herndon administrators need to chill #LetTheBoysWalk2012

• high_slim11: A mothers dream is always to see their kid walk across stage and get that diploma but Herndon is doing to much.#Lettheboyswalk2012

Lauren June 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm
The news did not give all the information! the reason they didn't is because the High School and Fairfax County are not commenting. You also didn't get told that because security found out about the baby oil, the school pretty much went on lockdown and disrupted the kids testing schedule while they tried to remove all the baby oil from the floor.
Lauren June 12, 2012 at 12:21 pm
some was injured though, both a student fell and a security officer fell and both got hurt
JMS June 12, 2012 at 01:18 pm
This has been rumored on the boards, but why hasn't this been reported in the stories? Is there true confirmation of injuries, because that would make this even more serious.
JMS June 12, 2012 at 01:18 pm
The high school and FCPS are not commenting about student discipline because of privacy issues. Completely understandable. If you want to know what happened fully, you can always go to the appeals hearing for one of the students at the school board office.
KH June 12, 2012 at 01:20 pm
Thank you. In principle I don't agree with the punishment, but at this point I feel that if they received the opportunity to walk, the whole thing would be about them. What about the rest of us who've done nothing wrong? Shouldn't we be getting the reward of graduating because we haven't screwed up in the past twelve years?
John Farrell June 12, 2012 at 02:07 pm
Those hearings are not open to the public.
Until last year parents were allowed to have a transcript of what was said. The hearings could be hideous as up to 17 FCPS employees berated the child and the parents for some pretty trivial offenses. (And, no, I don't consider the baby oil trivial.)
Karen Goff (Editor) June 12, 2012 at 02:43 pm
John S- There have been conflicting reports (from school officials and from the kids/parents involved) on whether anyone was injured. When we get to the bottom of it, we will give an update.
JMS June 12, 2012 at 04:17 pm
I always forget that snark doesn't come across very well over the internet. I know that they are not public. It was a joke. My point is that the only way we will know both sides of the story is listen to what the school said up until now, listen to the violators, then find the truth somewhere in the middle.
Again, they are very lucky IF no one got hurt. IF someone did get hurt, then they will probably have heavier consequences to pay. I have noticed that they have stopped using the "no one got hurt" excuse in their tweets, which may or may not be an indication of some new development. I wish these kids would just take the lesson from this that there are consequences of their actions. If they have not learned that by now, they may never learn it.
JMS June 12, 2012 at 04:42 pm
I'd like to give you People's Evidence #1 for why people say these kids knew someone would get hurt. https://twitter.com/68AndI0U1/status/210543284064501763
And for those of you wondering why we think he stirred up the crowd to get his 15 minutes of fame, I give you "People's Evidence #2". https://twitter.com/68AndI0U1/status/210443614071951360 And then, of course, there is "People's Evidence #3", which shows that he wanted school disrupted to continue his 15 minutes of fame. https://twitter.com/68AndI0U1/status/210444205426868224 I'm sorry, but that shows what he knew could happen and that he is the one riling up twitter and his school mates to try to get him out of a jam that he created for himself.
Gordon Blvd June 12, 2012 at 05:41 pm
DIDI I JUST READ THAT!?!?!?!
"Paris Morton ‏@68AndI0U1 I would probably be in jail if our prank was as successful as we wanted it to be." and with that, I COMPLETELY change my mind about not having them spend a cpl weekends in the pokey......... thanks for the research, John S. Yeah, that right there makes it a completely different story cause a prank is a prank, sure. But if you are intentionally trying to hurt someone.......................well that's Columbinish. No joke at all. @Page, this isnt about objectivity. Children could have gotten SERIOUSLY hurt maybe someone killed. I was too stupid to put two and two together before, but I get it now. Plan was to oil the stairs then pull the alarm to have a bunch off ppl fall down the stairs. Thats the reason why the thugs are so animate about not having the fire alarm be part of the plan. And the thought that ANYONE regardless of age could even think to do something like that pisses me off beyond comprehension. ......and for a ****ing JOKE!?!!?!?
JMS June 12, 2012 at 05:53 pm
Sadly Gordon, that is exactly what you read. It is pretty sad to think that these guys had time to plan it out and still thought it was a good idea. And they also still thought they could get their minions to get them out of the hole they dug for themselves.
TPG703 June 13, 2012 at 11:43 am
I believe it's called "consequences of your actions" and it's never too early to learn that lesson. And if, at 17-18 years of age, it's the first time they're learning it, that's sad.
LWE June 14, 2012 at 02:38 am
Yes, I agree! That's the main sticking point for me. Our graduation would be a complete joke if they attend. There's soo much they think they can get away with now, but things like this, or cheating in almost all of your AP courses (here's looking at one of the guys I personally know, who was involved in the prank.) Is certainly not something that will fly out there in the real world.
LWE June 14, 2012 at 02:42 am
@Farrell I'm just curious, completely aside from this argument, but how are people chosen as candidates for a jury? How can an attorney find out if someone has a bias about something or not? Just curious as to how that works.
Skip Endale June 14, 2012 at 08:05 pm
To all the hardliners commenting on this case - your robotic, knee-jerk responses to this case do not address the issue!!! The mere fact that this happened at this school implicates the teachers that have not raised the bar to prepare the students for graduation and life that follows. To delegate responsibility of this task to law enforcement and the courts is just plain laziness, incompetence and ignorance. Respect and civility must be taught, these qualities are not genetically acquired. I challenge every teacher at this school to tackle this issue by presenting themselves as a character witness to the court... and help these kids from becoming statistics....
Eric Metcalf June 14, 2012 at 08:09 pm
Respect and civility are qualities that are normally taught at home, not at school. That is unless you happen to go to a school with a JROTC program.
John Farrell June 14, 2012 at 08:21 pm
It's the teachers and the parents working together that teach civility and responsibility.
The dysfuntionality of the FCPS discipline system is not about the teachers. They actually supported the changes proposed by School Board members Schultz and McLaughlin last Thursday. All of the resistance to an educational, restorative and therapeutic discipline process is centered among a fraction of the FCPS high school principals, the Director of the FCPS hearing office, Ms. Scanlan, and Superintendent Jack Dale. There are better models around for handling these issues: Montgomery County Maryland and Boston, Ma to name just 2. The near mutiny of some high school principals at last Thursday's School Board meeting shut down that dialog.
Laurie Dodd June 14, 2012 at 08:30 pm
I am proud of the approximately 594 Herndon students who learned sufficient respect and civility to be honored at their graduation ceremony today. Congratulations!
Scott June 14, 2012 at 08:36 pm
I take responsibility as a Parent to teach my children respect and civility; I do not see that as a public school responsibility. The teachers are doing the best they can in a environment that is becoming less civilized every year.
Parents need to step up to the plate and teach humanity and the schools the ever expanding three R's.
Eric Metcalf June 14, 2012 at 08:48 pm
Scott and Laurie, completely agree. Those who were taught respect and civility at home, by their parents, are the ones to be commended today. Today is not a day to bash the school system, no matter what you think of it. It is also not a day for parents to try to push off responsibility to the school system for not teaching some things that need to be taught at home. Too many parents try to have the TV or internet baby sit their kids and don't teach core responsibilities at home. Change for discipline should being at home, not at school or with the school board.
Eric Metcalf June 14, 2012 at 09:31 pm
I can't fault the parent for supporting his son. I know if it was my child, I would sure be trying to find a way for them to still walk. It would be a moment I would want for them and me.
But, again, values are taught at home. I feel like the parents going on TV instead of constantly being on the phone with the principal, the school board, or whoever else they needed to talk to (and I'm not talking about a lawyer), would have been a far better use of their time. I know that my child sure as hell would not have been allowed to tweet with his friends for the past week like these kids have been allowed to do. While I would have supported them being allowed to walk, there would have been serious repercussions at home. I do think that the school should have punished them. Should they have prohibited them from walking at graduation? That partially depends on how they handled the aftermath. Were they truly sorry? Were they more upset that they got caught? How they handled the situation in the aftermath may have helped to decide their punishment. Unfortunately, none of us were in that room. We will never know what really happened. But, again, today isn't a day to bash the school board. Today is a day to congratulate the ones who did walk, and even the 3 who didn't. Because even though they didn't walk, they did graduate.
Gordon Blvd June 14, 2012 at 09:32 pm
@Skip - you know something? Last night I watched one of these kids and his parent on TV. Watched the dad try to blow this whole thing off like what his kid did was akin to skipping class. And it was PATHETIC! No, my friend - it is not the teachers in this case that are at fault. As Eric Metcalf pointed out to you, VALUES are normally taught at home. And I can most CERTAINLY tell you that the kid I saw on the TV last night - he definitely could have cared less that his actions could have hurt someone - in fact seemed proud of his actions to me, and only sorry he got caught and could not go to graduation. And it was his FATHER (not any teacher) on the TV with him, SUPPORTING his son.
Teachers cannot teach parenting. ESPECIALLY when the actual parents are FAILING IN THEIR JOBS THEMSELVES!!! Because last nite I saw that the kid was learning values from his dad. And the "values" where pathetic!
Mark Carolla June 14, 2012 at 09:40 pm
Skip - blame it on the teachers? You state "The mere fact that this happened at this school implicates the teachers that have not raised the bar to prepare the students for graduation and life that follows" Do you have any empiracal evidence of this? This incident involved 5 out of hundreds of students which implies that a very small minority at this school failed to learn civic responsibility. Would you care to share any studies - evidence -that show that the even a simple majority of FCPS students are ill-prepared for life after graduation? Blaming this incident on unsubstantiated faults of dedicated and hard-working teachers is malicious personal opinion bordering on calumny. You are entitled to your opinion but need to be called to task if you have no peer reviewed facts to base it on while accusing teachers of "laziness, incompetence and ignorance." The twitter and commentary suggest these are kids who didn't learn their lessons; ignored the rules; and engaged in premeditated reckless behavior.. My experience as a FCPS parent was that kids got their share of preparation for life after graduation - and yes these qualities are indirectly also genetically acquired from parents who should teach their kids proper civic and social behavior. As for law enforcement and courts - this sanction was an internal school matter but all school districts routinely press charges for vandalism and things like reckless endangerment. These kids made themselves into statistics.
Scott June 14, 2012 at 09:50 pm
SPOT ON GORDON! I read Ashkan tweets today as he say home forbidden to attend the ceremony. His tweets are full of vulgarity and now I see him as nothing more then a punk! His tweet was to the effect: "Now everyone can shut the f*ck up about graduation".
My Kid would be in the witness to mobile device destroyed in the garbage disposal and a very long hard summer working at a homeless shelter till Fall.
Mark Carolla June 14, 2012 at 09:55 pm
@ John Farrell - Your quote - "It's the teachers and the parents working together that teach civility and responsibility" is spot on. Excellent point. My concerns with FCPS discipline were at the top of the management (note I use "management" instead of "leadership" - one of the distinctions I learned in the military I think even you will agree with) chain at the principal and higher level.
INYOFACE JUST KIDDING June 14, 2012 at 10:33 pm
@lettheboyswalk It's their fault for the prank if they forgot about their prank got in trouble and tried to run down the stairs or something they would die from a skull fracture, soooooo they should have thought about the prank! BTW don't @lettheboyswalk they should suffer the consiquenses!
Tim Kramar June 15, 2012 at 02:46 pm
I only wonder if they actually get a diploma. As long as that happens, it doesn't really matter if they walk. I skipped my graduation, and my diploma was mailed to me anyhow. I don't think of it as a big deal.
Eric Metcalf June 15, 2012 at 03:09 pm
Tim, yes. They are getting their diplomas.
https://twitter.com/bigdarkass/status/213627199675301889
Morgan Jones June 16, 2012 at 01:31 pm
My wife is a teacher at Herndon High and we are both graduates. While we appreciate a good prank, my wife is very pregnant (we are actually at Loudoun Hospital delivering right now) and if she had fallen down the stairs, you could imagine the results. So, no, a car on the roof or even a small pig in the hallway doesn't compare to the stupidity of putting baby oil on the stairs and then pulling the fire alarm. This kid should have been arrested not just not aloud to walk at graduation. I love how the author failed to include these facts.
Mark Carolla June 16, 2012 at 02:13 pm
Morgan - Congratulations. Your wife's teaching is appreciated by many of us.. It is great she is able to do so in your alma mater.

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