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Herndon Residents Question Partisanship in Town Elections

A number of Herndon residents have begun questioning the involvement of party politics in Herndon's 2012 town council election.

 

A number of Herndon Town Council candidates, and one mayoral candidate, are coming under fire after Herndon residents began questioning a campaign flier and a YouTube video.

It started with a Herndon Patch blog post by Grace Wolf addressing campaign signs. Reader Jim Seevers commented that he thought brochures were more effective than road signs. “A brochure that represents a specific candidate, not the only one I have seen so far that seems to ask voters to vote in a block of candidates to provide a ready-made majority for all future votes,” he said.

The flier features mayoral candidate, Lisa Merkel, incumbents for re-election, Sheila Olem and Wolf, and new to the election, Melissa Jonas, Eric Boll and Jeff Davidson. It includes their contact information, election day information and reads, “A team that will work together and put our town first.” The flier also lists out the group’s priorities.

Though there is no mention of the Republican, Democratic or any other political parties on the flier, soon comments began coming in with accusations that those who appeared on the flier together are being supported by the Democratic party.

Matt Genkinger said, “Perhaps it was a coincidence that Ms. Olem's February 22nd fundraiser was hosted by Fairfax County Democrat Committee Chairman Cesar del Aguila with special guest Supervisor John Foust (D)? Lets (sic) not pretend that party politics have not inserted themselves in the race.”


THE YOUTUBE VIDEO

Herndon resident William Campenni included a YouTube video in the discussion of the candidates in the comments section on Wolf’s blog post, along with the comment: "The long tradition, and legal necessity, of Herndon elections being non-partisan was breached in 2010, and totally destroyed in this election."

The video was made to support Herndon resident Cesar del Aguila, during his campaign to become the chair of the Fairfax County Democratic Committee. In the video, Merkel, Olem and Wolf talk about the impact del Aguila had on their campaigns in the Herndon’s 2010 election. Del Aguila ran for Herndon Town Council in 2010, but was not elected. Boll appears in the video as well.

In the video, Boll says del Agulia turned Herndon from a Minutemen-Tea Party stronghold to a Democratic stronghold. Merkel laughingly says that she knocked on the doors del Aguila told her to knock on. Wolf says, “I can honestly say I wouldn’t have gotten elected if it weren’t for Cesar.”

Campenni said the flier and video show a new disregard for the town’s traditionally non-partisan election. He said he believes there is no doubt the group of candidates is running with support from FCDC, and that FCDC has held fundraisers for some of the candidates.

Herndon town code prohibits candidates from having a political party next to their name on the ballot, but doesn’t have further restrictions on party politics in the town’s election. “But there is no doubt as to what the intent of the town code is—to prevent party politics from taking over Herndon elections,” Campenni said.

The Hatch Act (1939) prohibits federal employees from taking part in partisan politics. However, the town’s nonpartisan ordinance allows them to take part in the local election and be on the council.

When asked about the video, del Aguila said the people who appeared in the video did so as friends to help support him in the FCDC chairman election, and the video was intended to show him in a positive light. “Those folks are in no way indebted to me for anything.”

Del Aguila said he is also aware that the town’s election is nonpartisan. “The FCDC is in no way, shape or form endorsing any candidate in any town election,” he said. “That includes all towns within Fairfax County.”

Though del Aguila and others are affiliated with FCDC that doesn’t mean its members won’t help the campaigns of people they are friends with, he said. “I want to help my friends,” he said.

Merkel said though del Aguila did help her during the last election, he wasn’t chair of FCDC at the time. She said he offered assistance to fellow candidates he was friends with in the 2010 election, which was helpful with his experience in marketing and sales, and that she was joking in her comment about door knocking.

Merkel said she disagrees with the “Democratic stronghold” comment Boll made in the video, but that doesn’t mean she won’t get along with him if they were both elected to the council. The candidates shown on the flier are a group of town residents who want to come together in spite of their differences to move the town forward, Merkel said.

She said she also thinks those who are responding negatively to the flier are underestimating Herndon’s voters.  “No one thinks they have to vote for every candidate on the flier,” she said.

Wolf said there are a wide variety of political beliefs represented among the town council candidates, and she wants to set aside ideological differences for the betterment of the town. “Town issues are nonpartisan,” Wolf said. “Therefore we’re taking a nonpartisan approach to it.”

Campenni said though there were purely local groups that would form because of election issues in the past, that can no longer be said. "That all changed in the 2010 Town election, and is being repeated on a grander scale in the current election," he said. 


INFLUENCES AND ACCUSATIONS

A number of those involved in the discussion on the blog expressed concern about the involvement and impact of political action committees, special interest groups and others on the Herndon election. Though the groups come and go, accusations of partisanship aren’t new to the election.

Groups taking an interest in the Herndon election over past years include the Herndon Minutemen, Help Save Herndon, the Alliance for Herndon’s Future, Citizens for a Better Herndon, Neighbors for Herndon and a number of others.

In the 2010 election the Virginia New Majority became involved in the election with the intent of having an impact on the town’s street solicitation ordinance.

The Alexandria-based, lobbyist-represented group is largely funded by Service Employees International Union, with more than $60,000 in contributions from SEIU reported. In 2010 VNM supported Olem, del Aguila, current Herndon mayoral candidate Jasbinder Singh, Daniel Alvarado and Merkel.

When the street solicitation ordinance wasn’t addressed right away VNM’s tactics became aggressive, including singing Christmas carols with offensive alternative lyrics to members of council it had previously supported.

In 2006, the election got contentious when candidates began debating on the subject of the day labor site. Campaign tactics included anonymous post cards, telephone push polls and accusations of partisanship. Ultimately, many of the incumbent council members were unseated that year.

According to The Washington Post, the challengers said the previous council had fallen out of touch with voters in the town.

"It's a new direction for Herndon," newly elected Charlie Waddell told the Post. "We've got a new slate. We've got a new council. We've got a new mayor. We are going to try to be responsive to the people. That was lost on the council." Waddell is running for Herndon Town Council again this election.

This year Virginia New Majority, as well as the group Progressive Majority, have contacted a number of the candidates about endorsements for this election. Merkel and Wolf said they have refused support from VNM and they have not authorized them to do any campaigning on their behalf. Additionally, Merkel turned down support from Progressive Majority.

Herndon Voices is a new PAC this year looking to have an impact on Herndon’s election. According to its website the group will “evaluate all candidates seeking elective office and recommend individuals that best share our vision for our town. We seek to put our town before politics.”

There are no names on the website in terms of who the organization is supporting nor who is heading the organization, though VPAP.org shows Sharon Gleason and an address she owns as the contact information. The address is outside the town of Herndon, in the 20171 zip code. The single $500 donation is from a McLean resident.

Del Aguila said he can understand how someone who lives adjacent to the town could be concerned with the election, as changes in the town of Herndon could have impact on their neighborhoods as well. The same argument was made by Herndon residents in the 2008 election on the RestonWeb forum in regards to the PAC Help Save Loudoun.

The Dranesville District Democrats posted Facebook photos of a fundraiser for Herndon Voices in March that was held in McLean. In attendance were candidates Jonas, Boll, Wolf and Merkel. Del Aguila attended as well.

Herndon isn’t the only locality to worry about partisanship in its local elections. In 2003 Vienna's council addressed the issue. The Herndon council and mayoral candidates will learn how town residents feel at the Dulles Regional Chamber and HCTV-sponsored candidates forum, to be held next week, and ultimately the day of the May 1 election

In the meantime, residents can sound off here in the comments. What do you think of partisanship and outside influences on Herndon's elections? If you want to tell the candidates directly, visit our candidate directory for contact information

Related Topics: Election, Herndon, Herndon Election 2012, and Herndon Town Council Election

Sean Moran

8:44 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Thank you for this great reporting. As someone new to Herndon, this is valuable information in my decision on wgo to vote for.

Matt Genkinger

8:44 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

The Dranesville Dem's picture of cash going into a "tip" jar is my personal favorite!

Bob Bruhns

8:44 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I am starting to think that over and above the usual Herndon battles, this is about a big Republican-Democratic fight for control of the 'swing' power of the 10th Congresional District in Virginia, with the ultimate objective being the 2012 presidential elections. This area is critical, and tiny little Herndon is important as a figurehead.

Hence the outside interest in the Herndon election now, and hence the big money earlier in the Fairfax County BOS election, to support Foust over Husch, and especially to re-elect Bulova.

I think that the Herndon election is seen as being important for status, and to influence that game. So the big interest in Herndon is really the November election, not the Town.

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Matt Genkinger

9:25 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Bob, technically all three of Herndon's precincts are now in the 11th CD. The town elections will be a temperature gauge for the level of support that Gerry Connolly would need to win this November.

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Bob Bruhns

12:29 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Actually I'm pretty sure we're in the Tenth District. I remembered something about a redistricting, so I looked it up. Herndon #1, #2 and #3 show as preceincts in the Tenth district on the Fairfax County election site, and also there is this:

http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep?ZIP=20170&%2B4=4451&Submit=FIND+YOUR+REP+BY+ZIP

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Bob Bruhns

12:41 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Oops, stale info on Fairfax County Elections site AND the US House of Reps site.

I guess we're 11th after all.
http://www.vpap.org/elections/district/43

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Leslie Perales Loges

1:52 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

It looks like we'll have a story on the 10th/11th redistricting next week!

Jennifer Barton Boysko

8:44 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

All people have a First Amendment right to speak out, organize and work for whichever candidate they choose. This question seems to be made an issue every cycle, at risk of overlooking the most the important point all voters should be focusing on: Which candidates represent views you support and wish to see on the Town Council? There are stark differences among the goals of the various candidates. Every voter should focus on the issues to learn how each person differs, then vote for the one you feel best represents your views.

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William Campenni

10:42 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Thank you Ms. Boysko. I assume you mean that people should not be influenced by the Democrat Party's crushing footprint in this non-partisan election, and should vote for each and every candidate based on their position on the issues and their unique qualifications, and not on their membership of a group.

It is refreshing to see you implore this non-partisan and proper counsel to the voters of Herndon.

William Campenni

9:35 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

"Wolf said there are a wide variety of political beliefs represented among the town council candidates"

If that were true, then why would you want to run as a slate? You are running as a slate because you have great differences with the other members of the slate? C'mon Grace.

Grace Han Wolf

9:46 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

When it comes to relevent Town issues Bill, I have fewer differences with this group of candidates. There are differences of opinion and healthy debate that occurs BUT this is also a group that is willing to work collectively with the common goal of achieving success for the Town and all of our residents.

This group is committed to focusing on finding common ground and solutions that work, ways to move forward instead of focusing on what doesn't work, why something can't get done and and finding reasons and excuses to stop progress.

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Matt Genkinger

9:59 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

So, Ms. Wolf, do you propose that non-"slate" candidates have a common goal of achieving failure for the Town and all residents?

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Valerie M

10:35 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Grace, the "slate" concept leads to a rubber stamp council. We have watched over the past two years the voting block that consisted of you, Ms. Merkel, Ms. Olem and Mr. Singh consistently vote to block initiatives proposed by the current mayor.

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KM

12:29 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

It sounds to me like you're saying your best chances of effectiveness only occur if these others get elected with you.

Grace Han Wolf

9:53 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I also formally declined the request for endorsement by the Progressive Majority. My endorsements are from real people who live in the Town, serve the Town or own businesses in the Town and are bi-partisan.

My endorsements speak to my ability to work across many interests to focus on Town issues and concerns, as well as my leadership and dedication to making Herndon the wonderful community that it is. I am willing to work hard for those things that make our community one that our residents value and cherish and wish to continue to enjoy.

Peggy O'Reilly

10:26 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I see this so-called "slate" as a group of candidates who share a vision for moving the town forward, in contrast to other candidates whose histories include opposition to every proposal for downtown development; changes and delays in the approval processes so that developers walk away rather than deal with the town council's approval process; failure to make positive plans for the impending construction of the Silver Line station in Herndon; antagonistic relations with county officials, instead of working with the county for support of activities/projects that are of benefit to the town; classifying amenities that would improve the quality of life as "special interests" or "hobbies", instead of seeing these as opportunities to attract new residents and new businesses; and responding to any proposal for change with a litany of rationalizations about why it can't work. None of the "slate" candidates is likely to be a rubber stamp for anybody, as each has a history of doing their homework on town issues, asking critical questions, and forming their own independent opinions. It is time for a positive and forward-looking council, and that is what these candidates are offering.

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Valerie M

10:49 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Peggy, A rubber stamp council is exactly what we will be looking at if the "slate" is elected as a whole. The "slate" candidates all have the same "vision" for the Town as they have expressed in their blogs, but have not once told their constituents how they will pay to implement their ideas without raising our taxes.

As for Metro, the station will be located in the middle of the Dulles Airport Road with primary access on Sunrise Valley Drive. Have you actually looked at or walked the distance from the proposed pedestrian walkway to the sign on Herndon Parkway denoting future Metro access? Most people will probably opt to be dropped of on the Reston side rather than walk. It is a very long walk. I would ask voters in the Town to take a look at the distance to the station before we begin committing monies to Metro development inside the Town.

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Matt Genkinger

10:51 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Forget "rubber stamps," if elected the "slate" will be the definition of an absolute majority.

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Councilmember Sheila Olem

1:33 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

To Valerie M
the walking distance on the town of Herndon side of the metro stop is shorter than the distance on the south side of the toll road according the metro staff. I'm sure you find the design on line for the South side of the Herndon metro stop

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Valerie M

1:52 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Ms. Olem, I walked it last Sunday just out of curiosity. It is not a short walk. Most people will probably be driving over to the Sunrise Valley side to drop off and pick up. If the Town is able to incorporate the loop road that has been projected that would be great, but as of today that land is privately owned. The "Loop" concept may never materialize, and if it does current Herndon Pkwy infrastructure may not support it.

So as Mr. Singh and Mr. Tirrell have said, let's slow down and do this right.

Matt Genkinger

10:29 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Disclaimer: I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be, a resident of the Town of Herndon. However, as Mr. Del Aguila pointed out above, as someone who can hit a golf ball into the Town of Herndon to the south and Loudoun County to the west, I have great interest in the elections. The affairs of the town have a direct impact on matters that are very important to me that goes way beyond my property value. The choices the Town Council makes effects my commute - as I have to drive through Herndon to get to work; where I choose to buy my groceries - say hello new local sales taxes; or where I choose to dine - 2.5% food tax, I'll take my business elsewhere; or choose to go for a stay-cation - we'll stay in Reston to avoid the additonal 6% local hotel tax.

William Campenni

10:29 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Grace, you did not reply to Mr. Genkinger's question
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Why are you and your slate, backed by the various entities of the Democrat Party in a non-partisan election, always speaking in generalities and feel-good commentary? Please explain what it means to "work across many interests" when you are a monolithic slate. Does "dedication to making Herndon the wonderful community that it is" mean your evil opponents are out to destroy Herndon?

When you state "This group is committed to focusing on finding common ground and solutions that work, ways to move forward instead of focusing on what doesn't work, why something can't get done and and finding reasons and excuses to stop progress.", as a member of the Council majority for the last two years does that mean it was you yourself who was responsible ". . . finding reasons and excuses to stop progress"

Maybe we can start believing you and your slate when you stop hiding behind slogans like "making Herndon a wonderful community". It seems te entire "slate" has gone into hiding now that the real hard questions are starting to be asked. The Virginia New Majority, the group you caved in for when they demanded that you neuter the street solicitation ordinance, is back in town demanding a new day labor site. Where stand you?

And where's that one-stop, one-person point-of-contact for new businesses you promised two years ago?

Leslie Perales Loges

11:08 am on Thursday, April 12, 2012

This was just brought to my attention: The Dulles Area Democrats are hosting a breakfast Monday, April 16 that will feature Merkel, Jonas, Wolf, Olem and Boll.
http://dullesareademocrats.com/site/

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Valerie M

12:17 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Thank you, Leslie for reporting this. If this does not show that the "slate" candidates are running a partisan campaign spearheaded by the Democratic Party, I don't know what will.

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Leslie Perales Loges

12:20 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Grace has responded to this. It can be found in her next comment below.

Grace Han Wolf

12:03 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I try to make as many events as I am invited to attend to speak, on behalf of the Town. Lisa and I are both trying to make AAUW events to speak to those interested area residents, as we did last election. Several folks have been invited to speak at area HOAs and have done so. I am hoping to get an invite to speak at the Western Fairfax Republican Womens Club, Democratic Asian Americans of Northern Virginia and other interested community groups. If the Fairfax County Republican Committee invited us to attend and speak, I'm sure we'd try to make that happen as well. There are many important issues affecting our Town and residents and I, along with others, are happy to discuss them.

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Matt Genkinger

12:20 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Thank you for responding to one challenge, Ms. Wolf. Here is another. The Republicans know better than to get involved in a non-partisan race - something lost on the Democrat Party in this county. Anyway, if you were invited to speak at one of the Republican organizations mentioned above, would you reconsider if they required a $20 registration fee? Where will the proceeds from this event be going? I guess we'll find out after the election, as the FEC deadlines have passed.

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William Campenni

12:50 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Grace:
You keep digging a deeper hole. This coming Dulles Area Democrats event (http://dullesareademocrats.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=1) is a Democrat fund raiser, clearly marked on the bottom. It is not an invite for civic minded people. It is coordinated through ActBlue, a national Democrat fundraising, disbursing, and coordinating group. Did any of the other candidates get invited? I doubt it, although they might after this disclosure just to cover the DAD tracks.

Please, be honest. If you and your slate want to turn Herndon into a battleground for the major political parties and their agenda, then do so. Run on that platform. Then if your slate wins, you can change the Town ordinances to make Herndon a bitter, politically partisan outpost addressing party agendas and not Herndon's needs.
If not, then cut all your ties to the Democrat Party and their lavish support. Tell your slate-mate Eric Boll that, no, you and Ms. Merkel do NOT want to make Herndon "an emerging stronghold for the Democrat Party". Tell Fairfax Democrat Chairman and video co-star Cesar del Aguila to go away, you want to get elected on your own merits..

It is illogical and mutually contradictory to be part of a slate and then claim to be independent. It's one for all and all for one with a slate.

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Valerie M

1:28 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Ms. Wolf, you just can't have it both ways. You cannot be running as a Democrat and an independent. In the video at the man named Caesar' house you referred to yourself as a part of "Team Caesar." Is he not the current chair of the Fairfax County Democratic Party?

William Hilder

12:03 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

In this debate over slate versus non-slate candidates there are two things which stand out to me.

First, no one who is against the "slate" has had anything good or positive to say about the candidates who are not part of the "slate". No one has commented on the merits of the other candidates. Not. One. Person.

Second, if these candidates are in fact a slate wouldn't that make the remaining candidates a de facto slate and rubber stamp as well?

I know some of the candidates personally, and others I have not had the opportunity to meet. What I can tell you is that all these candidates mean well and are working hard to improve Herndon. You may not agree with their proposals or their vision, but you cannot question their sincerity in believing that they can improve our town at this juncture. (Although I suppose you could question their sanity for subjecting themselves to constant attacks!) It is very easy to sit behind a keyboard and type venom into this blog and call names and make accusations. It is apparently much harder to go out and actually support a candidate, knock on doors and get a message out. Particularly those who hide behind a moniker and talk trash. I question people who cannot attach their name to their beliefs in a public forum. In fact, you are awfully lucky Leslie allows you to post anonymously despite the fact that practice is prohibited.

Best of luck to each and every candidate who put themselves and their ideas out there.

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Mike

1:30 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

All "non-slate" candidates tend to have information on their websites that specifically state their stance on issues, which is something I really do not see on "slate" candidate websites.

I do not need to state anything about the "non-slate" candidates because they provide the information that I sought. I simply need to vote for them. With this article, and the DAD link provided, I know exactly who to NOT vote for.

Kudos to Ms. Perales, for making this information known on patch. You have done the job of many other web masters who haven’t bothered to make it a point to update many of the “slate” candidate’s websites, specifically in their “issues” section.

This close to an election, I consider partially completed candidate websites unprofessional to those who research candidates on the web. I’ll just stick to patch.

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Leslie Perales Loges

1:53 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Thanks for reading and participating in the discussions here, Mike.

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Bob Bruhns

5:22 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

It's true - good points and bad, the brawl has been negative rather than positive. Still, I know that supporters of all of the candidates have reasons for their preferences. Negative points are what tend to come out of brawls, that's all. We also want positive points. And details.

I haven't ever fully agreed even with my own favorites - but then later, I have now and then had occasion to realize that their ideas were better than mine. I won't be moving out of Herndon right away regardless of who wins, but I'd rather see my favorites win.

Just look out for fake stories and fake documents. I think we'll be seeing them soon.

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Non Partisan Voter

9:42 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

I had one of Lisa Merkel's supporter drop of literature last election and they were with Tenants and Workers United. Using SEIU funded groups as foot soldiers creates a distinct unfair advantage. Last election they also walked door to door with new voter registrations. As far as luck to post "anonymously" perhaps you did not read the terms.

I would have thought fairness in a non partisan election would be more important topic especially many of these candidates spend their own funds absent of SEIU and FCDC support. All those glamourous brouchers and professional photographers at Ms. Merkel's house on an ex-teachers salary just makes us poor folks wonder. Last year an employee of the Industrial Theater removed the campaign signs from the park and placed them at the dumpster where they were destroyed. I guess that's just trash talk also but as ugly as it seems that's life.

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Ann H Csonka

3:13 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

Mr. Hilder-- I appreciate your comment: "Although I suppose you could question their sanity for subjecting themselves to constant attacks!" It can get unreasonable and wear people down. My husband, John De Noyer, was on the Council for 16 years--8 rounds of pounding pavement (most prior to the pervasive internet). Most folks are nice, many are welcoming, some really happy to see a candidate at the door. But now and then there are stressed people. One guy screamed at my husband and was so aggressive that hubby never returned--for years--to that door. Even though it's fun, it's a tiring process if a candidate tries to cover the town.
During his first campaign, we replaced ALL of our signs--they were stolen, ripped & thrown around, slashed with knives--and he's a gentlemanly sort!
There isn't much of that these days, thank goodness. We used the same signs for years until some wore out and we replaced them during a later campaign when there were a lot of new neighborhoods.
Those who can afford to fund their own materials are lucky (we did), but if candidates have fund-raisers--fine with me. If their friends are associated with political parties, that is not really so despicable. People compartmentalize lives to some extent anyway.
It IS possible to separate political venues. It is important to retain non-partisan town elected offices in this area, because localities can use the federal-employee talent pool.

I just wanted to say thanks for your voice of reason.

Leslie Perales Loges

12:16 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Just wanted to let everyone know real quick—we have a new moderation system for the comments in place.

It seems this article keeps defaulting to a setting where I have to individually approve every comment before it'll show up, causing some delay before the comment appears on the article. I've changed it back to auto-approve comments twice now so hopefully it won't happen again. I don't want your comments to sit in moderation for an hour or more if I'm in a meeting or otherwise occupied. I'll keep an eye out for it, but know that if your comments aren't showing up right away, that's what's happened. If it seems it's been an extended period of time (two to three hours or more) and your comment isn't showing up, feel free to send me an email to let me know at leslie@patch.com

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Leslie Perales Loges

1:58 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Another quick note—THANK YOU to everyone participating in the discussion here on Patch, and thank you for keeping it clean.

(As a gentle reminder I'll point out again, name calling, veiled profanity, etc. will result in users comments being deleted. http://herndon.patch.com/terms)

John Davis

1:21 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

What is this “slate of candidates” promoting? What is it that they can’t, or haven’t been able to do without resorting to a voting bloc? I’m not seeing anything in the article, or answers that suggests what the real agenda is?

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Valerie M

1:35 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

John, We have been asking that for weeks, but get no response from the "slate" candidates. We get lots of pretty ideas, but no info on how they will be implemented or how they will impact our taxes.

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William Campenni

1:43 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

John:
If you read their brochure, they are for ensuring public safety, improving town services, planning for Metro, preserving historic downtown, blah, blah, blah. In my 36 years of Herndon election-watching, I don't remember a single candidate that was against public safety, demolishing town services, etc.

Evidently their mentors have given them instructions to say not a word about what their agenda is, lest they have to take on stand on such nasty outcomes like big tax increases, taxpayer funding for Art Centers and Nature Centers, 50-story buildings around the Metro station, a new day labor site, whatever.

No, keep it fuzzy. "Herndon's Future Is Now!" (an oxymoron and illogicality if there ever was one). "Put Owr Town First". "Growing In The Right Direction".
Like those "Baby on Board" signs, what the heck does all that gibberish mean?

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KM

12:41 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Those are fantastic questions. I'd love to hear each one of the candidates of that party, sorry - "slate" - answer that for themselves.

Doug Shuster

2:31 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Regarding the comment that "We have watched over the past two years the voting block that consisted of you, Ms. Merkel, Ms. Olem and Mr. Singh consistently vote to block initiatives proposed by the current mayor." I think Coucilmember Singh (and the Mayor) would disagree with this as it has in fact been Councilmember Tirrell who has sided with the Merkel/Olem/Wolf slate on issues such as the Metro Area Plan. Singh feels that he has been "shut out" by the slate just as I, as a constituent, feel, when they didn't agree on an issue.

I know that 100% concensus isn't always feasible, but the Council should always have concensus as a goal. Otherwise you have 4-3 votes on issues like the Metro Area Plan, the largest development the town has ever considered undertaking, which just leads to more divisiveness. I hope that the next Council strives to unify, not divide.

Non Partisan Voter

6:56 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Here is a statement straight from the Chairman's mouth from an interview with the Blue Virginia blog......

"I guarantee we will have someone running against Tom Rust in 2013. We need to have a commitment from the state level. Also, we need to find people in the community. Every time I go speak, I tell people they should identify folks in their community to potentially run. In Herndon, I've recruited 4 diverse new people to run for council in May 2012. We're helping them with media training."

http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/5758/blue-virginia-interview-new-fairfax-democratic-chief-cesar-del-aguila

Non Partisan Voter

6:56 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

"I had gotten involved in Herndon, with a group attempting to change the town council's anti-immigrant stance. (Note: For more on that, click here.) Although I lost my race for Town Council by a few votes, my side captured the majority and made needed changes to the policy. This experience convinced me that acting locally could be effective, and also demonstrated the extent to which local politics affected our lives"

Non Partisan Voter

7:10 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

Just so there is no confusion.....in the Blue Virginia interview, Chairman Del Agulia stated in this article "..... he is also aware that the town’s election is nonpartisan. “The FCDC is in no way, shape or form endorsing any candidate in any town election,” he said. “That includes all towns within Fairfax County.” So the Democratic Chairman can form slates, assist in marketing and training and hold almost daily evening meetings at his home for the slate?

Matt Genkinger

9:15 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

I give Ms. Wolf and Ms. Olem a little credit for actually showing up to post - selectively as that may be. Many thanks to Leslie for making this very transparent to all of your Patch readers!

Non Partisan Voter

9:44 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

How about them telling the truth? FCDC clearly lied about recruiting Merkel, Olem, Wolf, Singh( last year), Davidson, Boll, & Jonas.

SEIU volunteers handed out their literature last year. I'm voting for the Shadow Mayor Cesar del Agulia !

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Matt Genkinger

9:49 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

They've definitely got some explaining to do! Doesn't appear as though any of them are willing to talk about it here, though, at least not in depth. If all candidates were amenable, perhaps they'd all appear one night for a Q&A from residents of Herndon.

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CriticalVoter

1:56 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Who did SEIU endorse at the last election? Let's see: Merkel, Olem, Singh, Del Aguila, Alvarado. Who are they endorsing this year? I haven't seen a thing.

Stick to the fact Non Partisan Voter.

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Valerie

8:49 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

To Critical Voter and Non Partisan Voter: It is hard to rely on anything you say as you are both shadows.

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Leslie Perales Loges

9:14 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

Matt - There will be a candidate forum Wednesday night at the town council chambers (765 Lynn St.) starting at 6:30 p.m. During the last portion of the event the audience will have about an hour or so to ask any questions they want.

Non Partisan Voter

10:01 pm on Thursday, April 12, 2012

They partisan Chamber of Commerce had one on the 18th of April at 6:30PM. Hopefully Leaslie P can continue her excellent coverage of this seedy behavior by political hopefuls endebted to the Fairfax County Chairman for Democratic Party. He had also vowed, with the slates help to go after Delegate Tom Rust! Chairman Del Agulia is a Reston transplant who moved to Herndon like a Hillary Clinton. Bring big bucks and steal a local election from a bunch of supposedly non immigrant friendly officials.

William Campenni

10:38 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Time to put this thread to bed, with this twitter quote from the otherwise silent Ms. Merkel:

"Much ado about nothing. As mayor I'll work to put the divisive past decade behind us."

And the way to do that is to turn the officially non-partisan election into one where her slate is endorsed, and hand-picked by the Democrat county chairman? (del Aguila: "I've recruited 4 diverse new people to run for council in May 2012. We're helping them with media training." http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/5758/blue-virginia-interview-new-fairfax-democratic-chief-cesar-del-aguila )?

Where the re-emergent Virginia New Majority is back in town after saying it got Ms. Merkel elected in 2010 using the divisive illegal immigration issue?

Let's all become politicians. We would never be held accountable for our actions.

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CriticalVoter

1:59 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

Fine accusation from the person that is the first one to bring up Virginia New Majority on any of the blogs. Let's all stir the pot, throw a stink bomb and run like William Campenni.

Valerie M

5:04 pm on Friday, April 13, 2012

"Much ado about nothing. As mayor I'll work to put the divisive past decade behind us."

Ms. Merkel, this is not a response that a serious mayoral candidate should be making. A serious candidate should be answering the questions that have been asked by responders to this article here on the Patch, and not on Twitter with platitudes.

Once again, how will you implement your vision for Herndon without raising our taxes?

Ann H Csonka

9:05 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

PART ONE: In the article: “Campenni said the flier and video show a new disregard for the town’s traditionally non-partisan election. He said he believes there is no doubt the group of candidates is running with support from FCDC…”
NEW? NO!
However, to refresh memories and for the benefit of new Herndon residents, THE MAY 2006 TOWN ELECTION was the actual beginning of “a new disregard of non-partisan Town elections”.
The Town’s 2006 elections were hijacked by extremist Republicans and “anti-immigration” (or more precisely “anti-illegal immigration”) interests in neighboring Loudoun County and by national groups such as Judicial Watch and “ForTheCause”.

Sadly, these outside interests were invited to participate by a few Town residents, who put narrow ideologies over Town loyalties and gave away our precious Town sovereignty.

An excerpt from a “Right Wing Watch” blog: “Judicial Watch also sued the city [sic] of Herndon, Virginia over its day-laborer center, created to alleviate the ‘chaos in a 7-Eleven parking lot’—a parking lot…manned by members of the local Minutemen vigilante group seeking to expose hiring of labors they believe to be undocumented.”

Republican Loudoun County Supervisors Delgaudio, Snow, and Staton were involved in helping the small “Help Save Herndon” group, which also spawned “Help Save Loudoun”.
Sterling Supv. Delgaudio and his Town operatives were tireless.

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Non Partisan Voter

10:15 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Not sure what your point is Ms. Csonka. Folks were upset the former Herndon Mayor ignored them and allowed $175,000 of tax payer funds to take public property and convert it to a hiring hall for illegal aliens to include personal parking spaces and ESOL classes. This new welfare center expanded the services of the Resource Center and dramatically increased illegal aliens seeking work. Why do you not bring up the Herndon Alliance who worked and provided funds and resources for the Merkel, Wolf, Olem, Singh slate ? I believe Peggy O'Reilly was a key figure right in that "Left Wing Watch" who was the blog master. If you really want to bring up ugliness you do not bring up the fact anarchists and communists groups blocked our streets for day laborers.

As far as that "small group", they broke up the last slate without any participation or funding from any political party unless you believe fiscal responsibility and rule of law belongs folks you disagree with. The large majority of Herndon voters rejected your view that tax payer funds be used to provide a hiring site for illegal aliens. The only thing that has changed are politicians hiding their intentions. Merkel, Singh, Olem, and Wolf have done nothing but focus on illegal alien issues while shadow organizers set strategy and doctrine designed to support FCDC. I believe Jonas worked for Faust and that Faust picked up Herndon's ex- planning commissioner when his tenure was not extended.

Bob Bruhns

9:21 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Ann, it started before that - back in the 2005 public hearing debates about the Day Labor Center. I believe people from both sides of that debate come in from the outside.

Of course, as you know, that was because Herndon was the center of that national debate at the time. But the die was cast.

And then in January 2006, when the Day Labor Center opened, I seem to recall you talking about some pro-Center muscle that was brought in from DC - and because they didn't know who was who, they went so far as to menace you and your friends who were in FAVOR of the Center! Something tells me that they were NOT right-wing Republicans.

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Ann H Csonka

9:59 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Of course there was LOTS of stuff going on -- and outsiders of various stripes interfered with town issues and the Worker Center -- often unbidden. You're right about those creeps invading the day the worker Center opened.
Although the Worker Center was the key issue of the time that led up to the 2006 election, this Patch article at this time pertains to Town ELECTIONS, not to the whole topic of the Worker Center and the many tangential issues...from 2003 on. That's a whole mess best left on its own prior to the 2006 election cycle.

Ann H Csonka

9:29 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

PART 2: A Connection newspaper article reported about this no-longer-non-partisan local election, as did the Times, Observer, and Washington Post. Some of this is referenced at: http://www.loudoundemocrats.org/?p=39

The conservative NoVaTownHall 20 June 2006 meeting featured “illegal immigration” and the Town election that they hoped would close the interfaith day labor center. The meeting’s top speaker was Nathan Muller. Mr. Muller and his wife Linda, Loudoun County, founded the national group “ForTheCause” and led other fear- and hate-mongering efforts on a national level.

This is a lesson in local Republican operations in a purportedly non-partisan race. The Mullers are political pros who worked for Pat Buchanan’s presidential campaign and have close ties with former Colorado Congressman Tom Tancredo.

A nearby out-of-town resident stated on a national newscast that the outcome of our local non-partisan election was "in part due to outrage over…a rally of immigrants at a supermarket parking lot in Herndon, where Salvadoran flags were displayed.” I agree about that rally—that demonstration was stupid and “added fuel to the fire”.

BUT THE LONGTERM OUTSIDE PUPPETEERING WAS KEY.
And it was wrong. For example: http://www.novatownhall.com/blog/2006/05/: “If you appreciate the revolution Help Save Herndon has started, click the ‘Make a Donation button’ on their Web site to support them financially. Also, please support the Minutemen.”

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William Campenni

10:43 pm on Saturday, April 14, 2012

Ms. Csonka:
Please, Please, Please keep bringing up the day labor center that your "slate" running for office today supported wholeheartedly. Please don't stop. If Cesar del Aguila tells you that you are really messing up his campaign strategy of, as Eric Boll would say, "turning Herndon into an emerging stronghold of the Democrat Party", ignore him and go on and on about the day labor site that you wanted so passionately.

Yes, please make hourly posts about the good old day labor site and those meanies that closed down the illegal activities going on there. Please don't stop. The Merkel-Olem-Boll-Jonas-Davidson slate will love you for this, so let's keep bringing up that wonderful day labor site.
Thank you so much.

Rich Fredricks

6:54 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

I recommend that someone write a piece on the role of the town council - not what they want it to be, but rather what its role is on context of the policy, regulation and law. All too often people lack a grasp of what the role of government is and isn't.

CriticalVoter

9:43 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

The role of the Town Council is clearly laid out in the Town's charter, with a brief description on the Town's website. This information is also in Virginia State Code at http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=10218. It is a legislative body with limited and specific powers that relate to setting policy for the "public health, safety and welfare of its citizens." It's already clearly spelled out.

Barbara Glakas

10:55 am on Sunday, April 15, 2012

Or, if you don’t like reading the legal-speak in the town's charter, the Town’s website explains: “The Town is organized under the Council/Manager form of government. The Town Council is the governing body, which formulates policies for the administration of the Town. The Mayor and six members of the Town Council are elected simultaneously for two-year terms. The Town Manager is appointed by the Town Council and works with the Town's professional staff to direct Town operations. The Town Manager facilitates completion of Town Council priorities and encourages the entire workforce to provide superior service to all constituents - residents, visitors, and businesses.”

We are residents of Fairfax County as well as the Town of Herndon. Fairfax provides us with certain services such as fire & rescue, schools, library & judicial. But the Town Council makes decisions about land use (e.g., development and zoning), town budget (e.g., capital improvements, local taxes and fees) and other services such as Department of Public Works functions (snow removal, street paving, water and sewer) and police.

hogwasher

8:16 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012

I just want to point out that antagonist in chief around here, Mr. Campenni, is the ultimate partisan and he was part of the Swiftboat attack group. He has perfected the art of attacking others for their strengths. I think it's almost artful the way he is identifying people he disagrees with, attaching a label to them, and then attacking them for having a label that he applied. Masterful to watch him work. So devious. So manipulative. So perfectly time-consuming to have to keep up with his diversions. Really sir, hats off to you and your tricky little ways.

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William Campenni

12:37 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

". . . and he was part of the Swiftboat attack group."
References please?

William Campenni

9:51 pm on Sunday, April 15, 2012

OK, You got me. I guess it's time for me to 'fess up. I also pull the wings off flies. I split infinitives. I wasn't a Swiftboater, but I was in McHale's Navy and played pranks on Capt. Binghamton. When no one is looking, I rip offf the tags on mattresses and pillows. I tease cats with a laser beam. In the old days I used to fold, spindle, and mutilate those IBM cards.

There's more. I think soccer is a communist plot. I don't wait until 2 AM to adjust my clocks for daylight saving time. I don't do the "repeat" that shampoos tell you to do. I use ablative absolutes indiscriminately in my sentences. I never close the cover before striking matches. I even use my real name on these postings!

And topping my list of peccadilloes, I take politicians words, right from their own videos, and hold them accountable. How dare I. Me bad.

hogwasher

1:25 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

You forgot that you use voodoo dolls as visual aids.
Google: swiftboat and campenni: 1,470 results.
Guilt by association -- right? I thought that was the standard. That's how you do it, right?

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William Campenni

2:03 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

Hey, I like this game!

I did honest and campenni and got 8,360 hits!
I did brilliant and campenni and got 1,550 hits!
Genius and campenni? 3,150 hits
Kind and campenni? 19,300 hits
Compassionate and campenni? 2,100 hits
Accurate and campenni? 6,870 hits
Insightful and campenni? 3,170
Charitable and campenni? 3,550
Heroic and campenni? 4,790

But look what else I found:
Confused and hogwasher? 5,520 hits!
Cowardly and hogwash? 1,510,000 hits!
Imbecilic and hogwash? 72,900

And look at this!
Deceptive and Herndon slate? 177,000 hits!
Corrupt and Herndon slate? 561,000
Incompetent and Herndon slate? 141,000
Evasive and Herndon slate? 64,800
Illegal aliens and Herndon slate? 535,000

And saving the best for last;

Virginia New Majority and Herndon slate? 1,150,000
Democrat Party and Herndon slate? 2,000,000 hits!
Communism and Herndon slate? 463,000

I love this game! Thanks!

hogwasher

2:14 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

I'm glad you're enjoying it!
So far, I've run most of your searches too. I hope everyone does.
The first several links for campenni and brilliant aren't about you, but the fifth one is this: http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3194
Appears to be other Republicans praising the brilliance of swiftboaters.
Deceptive and Herndon slate and Corrupt and Herndon Slate bring up references to the minutemen / Republican influence on previous elections.

hogwasher

2:24 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

Uh oh. Not good for you.
Honest and Merkel: 2,340,000
You only got 8,360.
Brilliant and Merkel: 13,800,000 results
You only got 1,550.
It also appears to take Google much longer to find your name in association with those words.

But that's not really relevant. I mean, you're not running for Mayor.
Honest and Tirrell: 92,500 results
Brilliant and Tirrell: 58,100 results

Honest and Singh: 10,400,000 results
Brilliant and Singh: 9,030,000 results

So it looks like Singh is the most honest, but Merkel is the smartest. Poor Tirrell came in last on both.

But I think we've both successfully proven that anyone can take two things, put them together, and claim something. It doesn't make it true.

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William Campenni

7:45 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

Actually, brilliant and "lisa merkel" only brings up 97 hits. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is very disappointed about your usurptation.

And I have to move on. I can't waste time with lightweights. You and Ms Csonka have this thread to yourselves. Keep posting - it is quite informative to the public on who are now the Slate's primary mouthpieces.

Ann H Csonka

3:37 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

@ William Campennie 12:50pm April 12: “It is illogical and mutually contradictory to be part of a slate and then claim to be independent. It's one for all and all for one with a slate.”

People get used to “habits and patterns” of political parties that they know. Remember when Tom Rust was Mayor–and our non-partisan town enabled so much accomplishment? As others have found, when they have moved from a place like a small non-partisan town, it just ain’t like that at State level–if you are a Republican. The rules in Richmond are LOCKSTEP for Republicans, or they are not accepted in future runs.

The rules are different for Democrats in Richmond–their caucus doesn’t give them short shrift or cut them off if they “defect” on a few issues of special importance to their District’s constituents. I mention this because it represents a “party mindset”.

Coming from a politically active family, I’ve known people in both parties (+ many independents) my whole life—and have even voted for exceptional Republicans now and then…and I have observed this difference.

Grace was a Republican for many years, but has drifted toward the Democrats and apparently found this difference in “party mindset”. She recognizes that it really IS NOT entirely “one for all and all for one with a slate”, as you believe according to your experience and operating sphere. These folks have minds of their own, independent thoughts and recognize the freedom to differ.

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Matt Genkinger

6:07 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

Tom Rust is lockstep with Republicans in Richmond? I don't think so. In fact, Mr. Rust is quite independently minded. Of arguably the three most conservative bills before the GA this year (ultrasound, life at conception, and more than one-gun-a-month), Mr. Rust voted opposite of most Republicans.

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Valerie M

7:54 am on Monday, April 16, 2012

"The rules in Richmond are LOCKSTEP for Republicans, or they are not accepted in future runs."

Untrue, Ms. Csonka. I am beginning to think you do not comprehend either party well if that is how you understand the Republican Party. It seems that a small group of people want to dictate how the Democratic Party is run and run it to their personal beliefs and desires. What I see today is vastly different from what those of us who are Jack Kennedy Democrats want to see. That is why there was such a crossover of votes in the last Congressional elections.

That is the problem with the "slate " candidates. They want to rubber stamp all of their ideas and goals on the Town. If elected as a slate, and a Democratic slate is exactly what we have running in Herndon for the first time ever, there will be no debate, no discussion, no listening to the people of Herndon. Everything will fly through and rubber stamped into being according to what the "slate" candidates believe is in our best interests. The Town Council would become for the first time ever a puppet council.

Grace Wolf in an earlier post identified herself as an independent in this election. You just identified her as a Democrat. It would appear from the video posted by Mr. Campenni in another blog that Grace is not only a Democrat, but running on a slate put together by the Chairman of the Fairfax County Democratic Party. How sad for Herndon that our small town elections have come to this.

CriticalVoter

5:42 pm on Monday, April 16, 2012

Hey Valerie, do you even have the guts to ask the candidates themselves or take them at face value or can anyone who posts any thing in whole or in part, automatically carry more weight? Rumor, hearsay, hate mongering, anti-minority and anti-women poster can say what they like, and you believe it hook, line an sinker. Wow. That's the stupidest logic I've seen yet.

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Valerie M

8:07 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Critical, You have the shoe on the wrong foot. It is incumbent on the "slate" candidates to respond publicly, not privately. One can say anything off the record. It takes guts to go on the record. The silence from the "slate" candidates is deafening.

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CriticalVoter

8:20 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

ValerieM you have the shoe on the wrong foot. Elected officials tend to respond to their constituents and not to rabble rousers. Are you a constituent? Identify yourself to them and see if they respond. All correspondence to and from an elected official is FOIA-ble, available to the public. Go on, prove me wrong. Have the guts to ask them as a constituent and I expect that they will respond. Til then, enjoy the sniper alley with your colleagues.

Ann H Csonka

2:03 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Valerie M 7:54 am April 16: "If elected as a slate, and a Democratic slate is exactly what we have running in Herndon for the first time ever, there will be no debate, no discussion, no listening to the people of Herndon."
In fact, most of the "Merkel-slate" have served FOR THE TOWN in plain view, in non-partisan listening-and-discussion-mode on town issues, for 2 years.

C'mon -- a Republican slate was elected in 2006 and 6 of 7 were re-elected in 2008. Not Republican? That town slate was backed both times by Republican conservatives from local-to-national, as stated previously. (9:05 & 9:29 pm April 14)

Outside Republicans who blatantly manipulated our non-partisan Town elections:
> NATIONAL Rs Nathan & Linda Muller, Cong. Tom Tancredo, ForTheCause, FAIR, Judicial Watch;
> LOCAL-STATE-REGIONAL: Right Wing Watch, novatownhall, The Compass publisher, Loudoun Supervisor Delgaudio & his Loudoun lackeys (dispatched to drop literature, knockon doors) (plus other radical bloggers politicized the town election);
> AND Minutemen from all levels.
Plus there was the TEA PARTY protest demonstration in Sept 2009, in which Council members Husch & WADDELL waved flags, Mayor Steve and Delegate Rust - R, stopped by but didn't wave flags or signs. These Town leaders insulted visitors to Town who were not only Dems but duly elected State & County leaders that non-partisan Town leaders should've welcomed to town instead of mocking.

Non Partisan Voter

7:12 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Ann -did you forgot your friend at the day labor site sticking her middle finger up during the closing of the site? Perhaps you forgot the anarchists and communist parade your slate orchestrated to protest the closing of the day labor center or the anarchists with signs made of axe handles? If anyone has shown little restraint it has been those who want to use our tax dollars for social agenda and subsiding funding for hobby centers while making a play for Town land for the specific purpose and use of a minority group many of them non Herndon residents.

While legal citizens exercised there constitutional right you characterize it as "insult" while you protect a bunch of illegal aliens seeking work as less insulting and they are only exercising their constitutional right?

Non Partisan Voter

7:13 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Oh yeah it's an operating system in case someone mistakes this as name calling

George Taplin

12:22 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012

I have been reading these posts with interest. I wish more people would post comments because I am afraid the politicians running for Mayor and Council are ignoring these posts because they are made by a very few people, and as some may say, just "the usual suspects".

I would also like to set the record straight: The Minutemen were NEVER involved in any campaign in Herndon in any way. They never donated a dime to any candidate, they never knocked on any doors for any candidate, and they never made any phone calls for or against any candidate. The Minutemen were very narrowly involved in simply trying to get the erstwhile day laborer's site closed. So please leave the Minutemen out of this discussion.

Ann H Csonka

11:46 am on Thursday, April 19, 2012

Thanks for the correction, George. You are absolutely right. The Minutemen here have singular focus on monitoring people at various day labor sites -- on the street or at organized locations. Perhaps that mistake on my part illustrates how many folks are inclined to connect human dots when people are involved in various groups and efforts (hey, see, I'm "normal") :-)

Don Joy

1:19 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012

As someone who has lived in Northern Virginia for over a decade but only moved to Herndon 2 1/2 years ago, I'm curious as to why the town of Herndon elections are supposed to be non-partisan. Is it mainly so federal employees can be more involved re: the Hatch Act?

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Ann H Csonka

2:24 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012

YES. the towns of Clifton, Herndon, Leesburg and Vienna are non-partisan because there are a lot of folks in the Federal workforce in this area. The Hatch Act prohibits Fed employees from partisan offices. The Town are non-partisan so they can draw on that pool of people to fill local offices. Thes local offices are not exactly "plum jobs" . . . and it is good to broaden the potential "labor pool" by including the federal employees.
Many people who have served in these local offices have been or are federal. We're pretty familiar with this because my husband worked for USGS yet was able to serve on the Town Council because it is a non-partisan office.

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Don Joy

3:01 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012

Seems like a sham to me. Winds up being a shell game of people having to hide their real agendas, while the voters spend a lot of time trying to winnow out what the candidates really stand for.

Bob Bruhns

4:06 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012

A good place to start winnowing is the Town of Herndon Streaming Media Archive
on the Herndon Town website. This is a fabulous service!
http://www.herndon-va.gov/Content/Government/Council_Public_Hearings_Webcast/default.aspx

Also, the Herndon Town Council meeting minutes, and other Council information, are available here:
http://www.herndon-va.gov/Content/Government/Town_Council/default.aspx

Information about other Herndon Boards and Meetings is available here:
http://www.herndon-va.gov/Content/Zoning/Public_Meetings/default.aspx

The main Town web page is here:
http://www.herndon-va.gov

CriticalVoter

9:54 pm on Saturday, April 21, 2012

And oldie but goodie - sure, Herndon elections were never influenced by outside groups before now....oh but wait, what do I read on an old Novatownhall blog:
(http://novatownhall.com/tag/herndon/)

"Help Save Loudoun PAC has endorsed the following candidates in today’s town of Herndon, Virginia elections: (Herndon Election: May 6, 2008)

Help Save Loudoun PAC endorses the following “Rule of Law” candidates who are committed to continuing the town’s role as the standard-setters for local immigration enforcement in the U.S.

MAYOR: Steve DeBenedittis
COUNCIL MEMBERS: Dennis Husch, Connie Hutchinson, David Kirby, William Tirrell, James Vickery, and Charlie Waddell.

Why is the election significant to Help Save Loudoun? Because the vast majority of eastern Loudoun County’s residents are as affected by Herndon’s policies as are Herndon’s residents. Sterling backs up to Herndon, and I, like many Sterling residents, live closer to the former day labor center than most Herndon residents.

More on why you should vote for these candidates: Info from BVBL blog; info from NVTH blog."

Right, never any outside PAC support............

CriticalVoter

9:58 pm on Saturday, April 21, 2012

And here is an outside PAC raising money to purchase campaign ads for Herndon Town Council candidates Connie Hutchinson, Bill Tirell, Charlie Waddell, Dave Kirby in 2008. Looks like outside PACS have been spending a lot of money in recent Herndon Town Council elections.

"If you are inclined to support the current Herndon mayor and town council members who have taken a stand for the legal residents of our area, please consider giving a donation to the Help Save Loudoun PAC in the next few days. We will be buying newspaper ads in the local press to promote the public officials who are supporters of immigration enforcement here, for the May 6 Herndon town elections."

"If you want to help ensure that Mayor Steve DeBenedittis and Council Members Dennis Husch, Connie Hutchinson, David Kirby, William Tirrell and Charlie Waddell are reelected, please give some money to the Help Save Loudoun PAC."

http://novatownhall.com/2008/04/24/please-donate-to-hsl-pac-to-support-the-herndon-mayor-and-council/

Bob Bruhns

3:58 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

In 2005 and 2006, Herndon was the center of the national struggle on illegal labor and illegal presence. It is hardly surprising that outside forces had interest in that issue and the election in Herndon then, especially groups close enough to be directly affected by the outcome.

But my question remains: what is the outside interest in Herndon's election now? I see some evidence that it has to do with partisan politics - perhaps there is concern that Herndon could swing the 11th congressional district, and/or inflluence the 10th, resulting in a swing in Virginia and therefore the entire nation in the November 2012 presidential elections. And there is interest in Herndon's perceived ability to borrow and spend large sums for redevelopment.

In Herndon, we hear tell that a municipal parking garage would cost $10,000 to $15,000 per space - maybe somebody hopes to balloon that to $26,394 per space, like it is in Dulles Rail Phase II. People need to stop and think.

Non Partisan Voter

8:48 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Well I guess Loudoun folks were directly affected by the liberal left group who built a day labor site on their land and ignored their request to vacate. Loudoun booted Herndon off their property and placed a barrier on their property line. Placing a day labor site on their property directly affected them unlike Chairman Cesar del Agulia.

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CriticalVoter

11:52 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

So you advocate for the power of outside influence groups over Town of Herndon residents and tax payers? No thanks Non Partisan Voter, take your brand of bought-and-paid for-politicians-who-hid-their-PAC-money-contributions (like the above listed 2008 candidates) and go back to Loudoun.

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Non Partisan Voter

12:39 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

You seem to pick and choose what constitutes as outside influence. Les Zidel is not a resident of Herndon yet he continues to be allowed to meddle into our towns affairs to include Richard Downer.

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CriticalVoter

12:41 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Nah, NPV, they are just as bad. And so are you, as yet another unidentified outsider. You from Herndon or are you just another outside agitator, too.

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Non Partisan Voter

2:07 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

What point are you tying to make? Did you forget you are using a pen name ? How does that make you a resident or non resident? you are simply name calling and making no point which is a pointless conversation.

Non Partisan Voter

8:51 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

PACs are not in the Charter. Section 3a is specifically designed to prohibit partisan candidates who are simply like minded and will vote in a block. We have already seen this in the Merkel, Singh, Wolf, and Olem although I give a lot of credit to Singh for thinking on his own and coming up with real answers based on facts and data. While I find his personality odd it would not prevent me from throwing my vote his way.

Don Joy

11:45 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

When I read in earlier comments that Obama's SEIU communist zombies are playing a role in this Herndon election, I knew I'd better pay close attention to who to vote for, and not to vote for...

CriticalVoter

11:50 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

And you believe everything you read on the internet? Wow, you are a gullible voter.

Don Joy

11:59 am on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Critical voter, are you trying to suggest that SEIU thugs are actually humans?

CriticalVoter

12:38 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Not by any stretch - I am simply suggesting that you should be careful of believing what comes out of SEIU mouths - they are about as trustworthy as snakes. Find the facts yourself, see who they endorsed in 2010. See who Help Save Loudoun endorsed and supported in 2008 and 2010. There's what's being bandied about as truth, and then there are the facts. See exactly which candidate has received PAC money, endorsement or support in the past elections. So far, I see that Connie Hutchinson, Dave Kirby, Charlie Waddell, Bill Tirrell, Lisa Merkel, Sheila Olem, and Jasbinder Singh have accepted outside group endorsements and funding. From the 2012 campaign finance reports so far, no one's reporting nothing. Fingerpointing seems to be the name of the game, shadow and innuendo. I'll take a pass on that line of bull and stick with the facts.

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Bill Tirrell

3:48 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Hey there critical voter, In this election, I have received two donations of over $100 (from Town residents, current and past) and a loan over $100 from my wife. What 'outsider' endorsement or funding have I accepted through 31 March? Help Save Loudoun? Please indicate where I accepted their endorsement (or even knew about it). On my website? An endorsement from a former academy classmate who is a mayor in NJ (who sent no money!)?

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Non Partisan Voter

5:02 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Careful Bill - Anonomous is just making stuff up so it's hard to have a conversation with it.

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CriticalVoter

5:17 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Hey there Bill, I am a fan but you did get endorsed by and received a paid for ad from Help Save Loudoun in 2008. This election looks clean, from all candidates, which is why I am making a stink over the bull put forth by not-disinterested parties such as William Campenni and Non Partisan Voter. Liars don't help anyone get elected and I'm surprised and disappointed that you put up with their innuendo and mudslinging. I had hoped for a better campaign from you and your supporters.

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Non Partisan Voter

5:26 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Liars ? You really need moderation and perhaps just placed off the blog. When facts are so discomforting you lash out and call names.

Bob Bruhns

1:21 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

2010 was about the end of the worries about another Day Labor Center in Herndon. That, I think, is a large part of the reason why the Council underwent so much change in 2010 - mistakes such as shooshing the woman who was droning on about who knows what at a Council hearing, were starting to be more important than the work that was pretty much already done. Maybe the fact that two Council members protested against a candidate for some Virginia state office during a Tea Party protest did not go over well with voters.

The Observer newspaper was very much against Mayor Steve and the Council of 2006 to 2008 and 2008 to 2010, which is surely why the Compass was created in the first place. But the Observer is gone now, and we found that a mixed Council still did not want a Day Labor center or unbridled street solicitation in Herndon.

A PAC is not the same as a party. But a bigtime party guy who was visible on CNN sitting behind President Obama recently, is behind the 'team', and he is clearly influential there. However, he LIVES in Herndon. Maybe it's not a massive conspiracy. But after the disaster we almost made of the Metro Area Plan, I worry about a team of people pushing like locomotives to 'get things done'. My support goes to individuals.

Non Partisan Voter

2:03 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

I remember a group last election that was a PAC headed by The O'Reillys right? Collected monies and paid advertising right? Peggy and Mike I believe? You can find Mikey in Cesar's skit on how to say his name.

Bill Tirrell

5:32 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Critical Voter, Until this came up I NEVER knew there was such an ad or such an endorsement. Since I never knew, I never ACCEPTED that endorsement (and couldn't have done anything about the ad anyway). As to what others choose to say, that's up to them; unlike some others that perhaps control what supporters say, I don't. Hope you're still a fan and will vote for me on May first!

CriticalVoter

6:22 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Then why do you allow your supporters to lie on your behalf? I'm disappointed. Okay, you didn't knowingly accept an endorsement or PAC funds. Is it possible that candidates in this election are also in the same boat? Or is that little truth just inconvenient to your platform? Please, make sure your supporters tell the truth, it reflects poorly on you and the Town.

VIcky Dorman

6:56 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Critical Voter & Non-partisan Voter. We get it, Its getting very repetitive. Your constant harping at each other is annoying. Everyone should go to the candidates web sites. Send candidates emails that prove you are actually a resident of Herndon. if you don't like the response or don't get one, don't vote for them.. Having had worked in constituent services myself for many years,you are too busy to respond on blogs/emails where voters refuse to identify themselves. Nobody in a Democracy ever won with 100% of the vote. On May 1, the citizens of Herndon will have their say. I for one would like to see all the naysayers actually thank the folks who threw their hat in the ring to run. The anonymous flamethrowers should have thrown their own hats in the ring.

Non Partisan Voter

8:24 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Why on earth would you group me with Critical Voter? Just because she/it/they name call b/c facts are hard to dispute. Slate candidate web sites are really is not the answer. If memory serves me your former boss was exposed just like Merkel - Republican In Name Only right? She was booted for being fake and hopefully follows the same path as the former Dransville Suprrviosr

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VIcky Dorman

9:41 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Perhaps because your own posts on Herndon Patch have been deleted for name calling? Since the Town elections are non-partisan, what difference does it make that you call someone a Republican In Name Only? The former Dranesville Supervisor ( note the correct spelling of both words) won a Republican primary. Elections come and elections go.

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VIcky Dorman

10:03 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

NPV, you said "She was booted for being fake and hopefully follows the same path as the former Dransville Suprrviosr"

You really need to look at this sentence.

Bob Bruhns

9:50 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

I can't say that I greatly object to PACs, per se. I did take action once because one head of a PAC was using a ... :) ... pen name, to attack a target of the PAC. What really galled me, was to see that same person in real name mode in the letters column, accusing another candidate (in another contest) of mudslinging, while being guiltier than sin of the very same thing. If people only knew. The hypocrisy of that individual is beyond remarkable - it is incredible.

The worst thing about politics, to me, is that disgusting behavior of many types is considered just fine and dandy if it comes from a person in the same party or group. But anything less than perfection from the 'other' side, of course, is supposedly despicable. Every pretense of shock, displeasure and dismay must of course be exhibited. It's supposed to win friends and influence people.

Non Partisan Voter

9:53 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Bob - who is "disgusting" ? Perhaps blogs and folks like you who facilitate conversation for ratings than judge are "disgusting". You facilitated the now defunct Reston Web so stop judging! You ain't the moderator so sit down !

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Bob Bruhns

10:22 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Very interesting, NPV. I did nothing for ratings - which is good, because I didn't have much in that regard, as you must know. What were you asking before? Oh yes - why were you lumped with a namecaller. I can't imagine.

Non Partisan Voter

10:05 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Don't worry Leslie keeps deleting comments. You are unemployed b/c of a dishonest politician much like Merkel, Olem and Wilf

Non Partisan Voter

10:08 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

Point made. This is the most stupid thing to do.

Non Partisan Voter

10:11 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

No different than you and your friends giving folks the middle finger when they closed the day labor site. No "free press" here . Looks line and smells like Herndon Obaervet- Enjoy your your biased reporter. Lights out :-)

Leslie Perales Loges

10:25 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

I have not deleted a single comment on this thread. But I'm shutting it down now.

Leslie Perales Loges

10:46 pm on Sunday, April 22, 2012

I take that back—I hadn't seen the swearing.

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