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Council to Consider Alternative Street Solicitation Ordinance

The Herndon Town Council voted 4-3 to consider an alternative version of the street solicitation ordinance at its Feb. 1 and 8 meetings

 

Herndon’s street solicitation ordinance was once again the focus of the Town Council’s Tuesday public hearing as the council members discussed considering an amended ordinance.

During the comments from the council portion of the meeting Councilman Jasbinder Singh made a motion to put an amended version of the street solicitation ordinance on the council’s Feb. 1 and 8 meetings, as well as release the amended version to the public.

At the end of the council’s Jan. 4 work session the council went into closed session with Town Attorney Richard Kaufman to discuss the ordinance and the council’s options. Mayor Steve DeBenedittis said the options presented to them included letting the ordinance stand as is.

The current street solicitation ordinance prohibits people from soliciting goods and services in public right-of-ways such as roads, medians and sidewalks. The newly released amended version of the ordinance defines the public right-of-ways as “motor vehicular travel way(s).”

“It shall not be construed to include a sidewalk, footpath, or utility strip adjacent to the motor vehicle travel way,” the amended ordinance reads. “The word ‘street’ also includes or is supplemented by the definition of ‘highway’ found in Code of Virginia 46.2-100 with this term being understood to exclude sidewalks and utility strips. In any event, ‘street’ excludes the sidewalk and utility strip adjacent to the motor vehicular travel way and includes ‘medians.’”

Singh said the discussion that took place during the closed session on Jan. 4 pertained to traffic safety issues and the council found that people advertising car washes on sidewalks had not caused any accidents during the last 10-15 years.

However, people stepping into the roadway to sell merchandise have the potential to cause serious accidents, Singh said. He said the amended ordinance addresses the real and potential safety issues and it is consistent with state law.

Singh said it will also be likely to stop the lawsuit the town is being threatened with and save thousands in litigation costs. “Mr. Mayor we cannot be cavalier about the potentially high litigation costs,” he said.

Council member Sheila Olem said after speaking with Herndon’s chief of police and talking about the town’s traffic problems with pedestrians, it doesn’t seem there have been any accidents due to people on sidewalks. She said the amended ordinance addresses the public safety issue while still allowing sports boosters to hold car washes. 

Councilman Bill Tirrell said the entire situation and frustration with the ordinance has been dreamt up by an outside organization and he believes they should leave the ordinance alone until 2012. He said he does not respond well to threats, including litigation.

Vice Mayor Lisa Merkel said, “I don’t believe that we should act out of fear of a lawsuit at all." Merkel said the council went into closed session to get legal advice from the town attorney, not to take any action or make any decisions.

Merkel said though he didn’t have to, Kaufman did make a recommendation to the council to consider the amended ordinance. She said she believes it’s in the town’s best interest to discuss it again to hear how people feel, vote and finally put the matter behind the town.

“No one on the dais is certain of how it will come out,” Merkel said. “Once there is a vote I think it will be clear that this council can move forward, no matter what that vote may be.”

Council member Grace Wolf said though she agrees with Tirrell that the ordinance should be left alone until 2012 to see what happens, she is willing to entertain a discussion on it.

Council member Connie Hutchison said the previous council worked had to get the language through general assembly and there were many communities that supported the bill. She said she thinks the ordinance “has been fairly and constitutionally implemented” and revisiting it now is unnecessary.

Singh said he’s looked at other similar ordinances and they are consistent with state law. He said none go into the sort of items that Herndon’s does, creating constitutional issues. He said he isn’t afraid of a lawsuit, but believes it’s important to weigh the cost and benefits of each option.

DeBenedittis said the town’s ordinance follows state law. “Responding to threats is a bad way to make public policy,” he said. He said the reason the council is looking at alternatives is because of a perceived desire from some members of council for alternatives.

DeBenedittis said there isn’t a need to change it and it seems that the council has discussed it at every public hearing over the last six months. He said he thinks reconsidering it is the wrong path to take. “I just want to make it clear that I serve the people of this town and not any other interest groups,” he said.

Merkel said for months the council has heard comments from the public, and many want the town to move on from the issue. She said if it is on the agenda, the council members can formally discuss it themselves, make a decision and move on.

Mayor DeBenedittis made a substitute motion during the meeting to place the amended ordinance on the June 5, 2012 and June 12, 2012 meetings. Tirrell said this would allow the council to see how the ordinance plays out over the next couple years.

The substitute motion to move the item to the June 2012 meetings failed by a vote of 3-4. The original motion to discuss the amended ordinance on Feb. 1 and 8, 2011 passed by a vote of 4-3.

Do you support the Council's decision to revisit the street solicitation ordinance? Tell us in the comments.

Penny Halpern

12:05 am on Thursday, January 13, 2011

I applaud the 4 who had the guts to vote for bringing the draft resolution and the entire issue to a public hearing and possible vote NOW. Leaving it until 2012 makes it an election issue. Herndon does not need more divisiveness.

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Dennis & Mary Drum

8:31 am on Thursday, January 13, 2011

We believe it should be left as is. The purpose of postponing the ordinance was to give it some time to see if it really impacted anyone. If we weren't paying any attention at all to the outside group that has co-opted the previous 6 and now almost 7 months of Council meetings, there wouldn't be any divisiveness.

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Walter Hadlock

11:02 am on Saturday, January 15, 2011

I have a copy of the ordinance, and it is very straight forward. I do not see any need to re-visit this issue. Herndon does not need to respond to an outside organization when it comes to this ordinance. The Town's image suffers enough from all the people hanging out along Elden Street/Alabama Drive. We don't need a weaker ordinance that might have the unfortunate consequence of bringing more people seeking work to this location. I drive thru this area multiple times a week, and I have yet to see any one being picked up for work. Just how do the people standing there day after day get by? I can't help but feel sorry for the small business owners in the area who have to deal with people hanging out in front of their places of business. Also, this situation can't be good for the owner(s) of the new office building next to Amphora, with frontage along Alabama Drive, who are trying to attract tenants to their building.

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Ann H Csonka

4:40 pm on Saturday, January 15, 2011

The June 2010 Street Solicitation Ordinance is IRRELEVANT to the presence of day laborers as described. If the new 2010 law applied, the guys would have disappeared.
Many other existing regulations--along with a slow economy--have reduced the numbers of day laborers in the Ala Dr area.

So what is the benefit of this June 2010 ordinance? We've heard that in the past 7 months, this ordinance has produced only 2 warnings--both to business owners in other parts of town.
Therefore, the real questions about the additional 2010 regulation might be: (1) Do we need it at all? (2) Is it just government over-reach?

Regarding outside groups pushing the Town to rescind the ordinance--it's a free country and people in and out of town have opinions. So what? Let 'em threaten--it's negative noise. Similar to what the Drums noted, if people were not paying attention to, and resisting, the presence of an outside group we wouldn't have that type of contentious issue.

What next? People could question why the Town keeps the June 2010 ordinance that apparently has NO BENEFIT and may attract more negative vibes in Herndon.

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Tony DeBenedittis

11:41 pm on Saturday, January 15, 2011

There is no reason to change the ordinance. Its fine and its working. We don't need the chaos that we had in 2005. The four on the council, led by Singh, who have opted to revisit this problem are tools of Jon Liss and the Virginia New Majority, an out of town group who is trying to control things in town. Merkel, Olem, Singh, and Wolfe are irrevocally tied to the VNM whether they like it or not. They are judged by their actions not their empty and misleading words.
Remember the chaos they are now causing at the next election!!
I submitted my comments previously which have mysteriously disappeared from your online paper.
Tony DeBenedittis

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Bob Bruhns

2:37 pm on Sunday, January 16, 2011

The outside group is distracting everybody from the enormous Downtown spending that is threatening to happen. Will Herndon respond by returning to the street circus we saw in 2005, and spending tens of millions of dollars that we basically don't have? Stranger things have happened.

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Ann H Csonka

12:15 am on Monday, January 17, 2011

Bob is certainly correct that people are not sufficiently informed about the proposed Downtown Plan. There are serious questions about the extremely low-density Downtown Plan Option that is being considered. The low density would vastly increase taxpayer costs, yet folks are unreasonably afraid of financially reasonable density that invites effective development proposals. People should review the Downtown information on the Town website: http://www.herndon-va.gov/Content/Zoning/Comprehensive_Planning/Dowtown_Master_Plan/default.aspx?cnlid=2957

The outside group attacking the June 2010 Street Solicitation Ordinance is indeed creating a distraction from focus on other issues (Downtown & Metrorail).

Regardless of how people try to connect it, the new June 2010 Ordinance does not "clear out day laborers". Therefore, rescinding the 2010 ordinance would not "return to 2005" (perceived as inviting day laborers). There are many differences between 2005 and today.

The Town can change the wording, for whatever reasons, but there’s no evidence that this 2010 law is actually needed or useful here.
Perhaps we should be proud that Herndon's initiative resulted in State enabling legislation that is REALLY needed in other localities that have real safety problems with the type of in-the-street solicitation that this ordinance combats. Be proud for value in other places and just let it go here -- so we can focus on issues that we KNOW are important and need attention.

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